Hello from Providence, RI, US

Greetings from a cold, sunny Toronto

Hi from Sao Paulo, Brazil!

Hola a todos, from Santiago de Chile!

HI folks ;-)

Hi from Nyköping, Sweden!

Hi Virginia! So good to see you here 🙂

hi everyone !

This meeting follows our Friendly Space Policy: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy

Hi Patricia!!

Notes will be here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app

Angie, Mau, qué bien verles aquí 🙂

A media marvel

the world's largest free media resources and Wikipedia's image repository!

A treasure trove

The place where all the images of Wikipedia are stored, but many more than that too. 80 million!

The media repository behind Wikipedia

a database with free media

Is like a big archive

Wikimedia Commons is a multimedia repository enabeling free access to the sum of all human knowledge.

Is where we keep wikipedia’s images hahaha

A place for mutlimedia files with no copyright restrictions

an adventure

A huge collection of images and other media, that almost nobody knows about

“How would you describe Commons to someone who has never used it?” - Please, continue to type your answers in the chat!

freely licensed is a type of copyright, it is different from no copyright

commons is the media repositories of the Wikimedia platforms

For those who just joined, notes are here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app

a media repository for Wikipedia that could be so much more

the archive and library behind Wikipedia

the etherpad has the minutes from the previous meeting at the moment? Can see someone's just added themselves as an attendee of the last meeting.

A huge collection of free licensed images, videos, sounds, and many other types of media.

The minutes are actually here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

Note the addition of -2 for this meeting

Uh oh Fiona we have a real problem then - there's more activity on the "non -2" version

I couldn't be in the previous meeting... :(

https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2022-2023/draft

Here it is: https://easyretro.io/publicboard/ybPhZSBgxPRgNWWBuHd3tW2w3s52/4eff8d2c-82f6-4f09-8f77-e614d2580cf7

https://easyretro.io/publicboard/ybPhZSBgxPRgNWWBuHd3tW2w3s52/4eff8d2c-82f6-4f09-8f77-e614d2580cf7

I read the script from the previous meeting. I appreciate the comments about the difficulties for newbies to contribute to Commons. The backlog of copyvios, media needed categories and review, is huge, and Commons really need more admins.

The big thing that seemed to be missing from the notes of the first meeting & now from the Retro board was "technical debt" -- reliance on software that in some cases is way overdue for maintenance/update, and in others depends on volunteers who have either gone away or now have too many other calls on their time

Yann - that could help (more admins) but also perhaps some more guided/curated ways for people to contribute that generate higher quality contributions. Need more work here.

Please, feel free to add thumbs up to topics you like on the retro board.

IMO this is issue zero to solve -- right at the top of the list before everything else; but we don't seem to even have a column for it on the Retro board, and it didn't even get a mention in meeting one.

that technical debt was discussed

James - technical debt is a big one. Also, metrics and measuring impact

we will give it another minute or two - thank you everyone for adding to the board!

as was consolidating tools

Technical debt and not identifying key tools that require prioritized support and development (ie. Pattypan, Quickstatements, etc)

Andrew: yes, taking the larger issue, Commons need more people doing review, checking new files, helping newbies, etc.

Yann - Yeah tools like ISA, WikiShootMe, PictureThis, etc. that provide more "guard rails" for contribution are helpful, so that you avoid major problems from the start

commons us till prioritised to still photography

Yes @Yann, I hope we can also have a discussion about the needs of admins. Are there ways that their work could be made easier?

Just this week, someone erroneously changed Property:P180 in Wikidata, possibly because they were confused by the SDC interface. Gah!

For those who wish to keep adding to the retro board: https://easyretro.io/publicboard/ybPhZSBgxPRgNWWBuHd3tW2w3s52/4eff8d2c-82f6-4f09-8f77-e614d2580cf7

For those who joined later, this is the etherpad/notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

Hey Frank, good to see you :)

Can the items on the retro board (ditto for previous session) be pasted somewhere on-wiki, please?

@Andy - that would be welcome. From this session and last one too

Hi Andy we can add to the Meta page - good shout!

"terra incognita" = "unknown land"

slow

(just to be sure everyone get it) :)

there's definitely a lot more "editing is fun!" messaging than "uploading is fun!"

Fiona: a lot of things can be done. Some issues are complex, others are easy.

commons are more than photographers

Slow please

I think the primary tension is that with Wikipedia, instead of copy/pasting text (a no-no) you can take the facts and paraphrase and write content about anything to avoid copyright violation. Not so with Commons - it's yes/no in terms of licensing, which means we need to be incredibly "unwelcoming" to the average person.

I agree with gnangarra. We probably have a lot of the public domain films and music too, but undiscoverable. All the GLAM files. All the scientific images… and more and more

And the sad fact is almost every other "photo sharing site" is not being strict about copyright, which breeds habits that are very different than on Commons.

Digital photographs are a big part, but not the only thing we need to cater to

photographers (and anyone who appreciates photography/media) show up on commons, might share their media, and then see that there's not much else to do (at least from a new user perspective) other than... categorize?

I'll say it: just kill wikitext on commons. It should not be needed. Everything we use wikitext for is a missing feature.

@Daniel I agree with you in this aspect - the front page of Commons does not scream "We are a visual community!" as there is much more text than anything else 🙂

One of the ideas of Commons is to be useful! Right?

@Patricia - For some folks 🙂

Getting likes on Insta is not enjoyable if you don't get any

LOVE this vision statement Frank!

As WM facilitators at least, we encorauge people to use Commons. But as it works now, is very hard

+1000 to have more tools for expresing appreciation! even in "wiki loves..." and other campaigns, we don't have an easy way to communicate with participants and just say "thank you"

For those speaking, please, remember to speak slowly for interpretation.

I hear you

There are other ways of showing appreciation though ... personally I like seeing whenever takes a minute to improve the categorisation of my photos, it's a bit less direct though.

Thank you Frank, that was a super useful presentation

(but it means 'someone found this photo useful enough to improve its metadata a bit’)

@Mariana - Yes, we have probably invested 5x more resources into tools to protect, punish, and restrict, than to thank 🙂

Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10svd-6f3Q4luG_RRHRp5sLGYMHusW_4mD_8YGfjHdvM/edit#slide=id.phttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OpenRefineMonthly brief reports of the OpenRefine WMF Project Grant: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/CS%26S/Structured_Data_on_Wikimedia_Commons_functionalities_in_OpenRefine/Timeline#Monthly_updatesMidpoint report: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/CS%26S/Structured_Data_on_Wikimedia_Commons_functionalities_in_OpenRefine/Midpoint

slow please

Thank you, Frank!

Thank you, Frank! That was a great presentation indeed.

For the record, I appreciate greatly all the work Mike Peel has done to add Wikidata-driven templates to Commons categories!

getting/giving that appreciation is one of the nice things about the Featured Pictures process, but only a small % of photos are going to make sense to send there. It would be great to have mechanisms to show appreciation for everyone else (including people who find/upload existing free content)

+1 Ryan

+1 Andrew: Mike's work is so important!

+1 Ryan

slow please

Thanks Andrew and Giovanna. 🙂

@Daniel Kinzler : no more wikitext might be an ambition, but wikitext is easy and flexible -- risk is that alternatives may be more off-putting for contributors; + difficult for existing tools and power users + only have patchy coverage

Sandra it looks like you are sharing your desktop instead of your slide program

Can you zoom in the slides?

Sandra's slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10svd-6f3Q4luG_RRHRp5sLGYMHusW_4mD_8YGfjHdvM/edit#slide=id.p

Thank you, Sandra!

Obrigada Gio!

For those who couldn't see properly ^^

@Daniel what is the problem with wikitext on commons? I think I missed that part.

I love this comment!

thank you Sandra! Open Refine for Commons looks powerful

Oops, apologies about this. I had not notices I shared my entire desktop.

Downloads would give an insight into images that are being used elsewhere, e.g. in teachers’ lessons

Jennie Choi: There is a tool showing where and how many times your files are used.

Jennie I use your images a lot more than any metadata can say

Adding a simple message to the file page saying 'if you use this please contact me to let me know!’ works quite well, I get a few emails a month by people using my photos just due to that message.

@Yann - Yes, we know about Baglama, GLAMorgan and others, but it would be good to get more details

Yes, Glamorous and Glamorgan do that, but It's just those used on wiki projects, rather than tracking downloading which might have ways to flag off-wiki use.

It would be great to know how images are being used indeed...

https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/glamorous.php

I've found similar stats with images that I've uploaded--most of the time our most successful images are ones we ourselves add to Wikipedia pages

https://fist.toolforge.org/wd4wp/#/

I've added my thoughts on further metrics (like counting Commons category links on Wikipedia)

Can you measure how many downloading there is for a file from Commons?

LOL, @Jane is our metadata godmother, enriching our images while we sleep 🙂

(including to multiple language Wikipedias)

I like Glamorgan (I've gotten press passes on the basis of Glamorgan statistics :) ) https://glamtools.toolforge.org/glamorgan.html

Thanks, Jennie!

@Tore no.

This tool was designed by Magnus in 2020 for the WPWP Campaign: https://fist.toolforge.org/wd4wp/#/

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Los_6_meses_que_cambiaron_Chile

O.K. Thanks

'Glamourous' works best if you are thoughtful (preferably from the outset!) about how you categorise your uploads.

SLow please

But Andrew the weird thing is that I will use MET images as a launchpad to find something else...not all discovery ends with enriched metadata (but I do try)

“Images from The 6 months that changed Chile”

Lots of folks from Africa don't know how to use the Glamourous and Bamgla tool

@Jane I suppose that's the value of an encyclopedic museum like The Met - at the crossroads of so much in one place

Exactly!

Also, for folks who have not seen - a project from Wikimedia Israel and Switzerland (correct me if I'm wrong) - https://glamwikidashboard.org/

To be fair, creating detailed stats regarding file usage isn't very easy as any file being loaded in a web browser is a "download".

taking a good photo can take quite some time, too ;)

and good equipment

as with good articles and good sources

Mobile support/upload is very, very important for less resourced communities. +1000 Patricia.

we're taking notes here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2help us documenting the meeting! :)

Yes, improving the Commons App would be great.

https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/08/30/the-story-of-a-photo-the-opening-of-the-constitutional-convention/

Is this the one, Patricia?

I think the trauma of Selfie-pocalypse still lingers though, making folks afraid to turn on that mobile contribution firehose again

Selfie-pocalypse?

that's why we need a holding cell for contributions, so that they can be approved .

This is the one from Switzerland: https://stats.wikimedia.swiss/

Yes I want a holding cell for my own uploads

Yes! That’s the picture!

Yeah, machine vision plus guided workflow and review queue can help, but challenging.

documenting history and creating memory in real time, that's awesome! Amazing opportunities that we cannot afford to miss. Thanks Patri for sharing!

Some more on selfie-pocalypse - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Mobile_Contributions_Quarterly_Review_6_2013.pdf

Thanks Patricia por sharing this with everyone!

I too was ignorant of the selfie-pocalypse so thanks for the context

We're taking notes here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

@Rachel @Mike - Yeah I only realized now that it's 10+ years old, so it has been a while

please remember that notes are collaborative - you can add/modify/correct what's missing :)

https://fist.toolforge.org/wd4wp/#/

TL;DR - If you make image contribution from mobiles super easy with one click, expect a lot of low quality selfies

Yes it's amazing that functionality has only been reduced for uploading in the time I have been active on Commons

All shared links are being added to the etherpad, for those interested: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

Gah, sorry I'm on a train!

with terrible bandwidth

Thank you, Isaac!

Thanks Isaac for helping editors utilize Commons on Wikipedia with the WPWP campaign. Remarkable bridge.

@Andrew I can't see any selfies in that slide deck?

🙂

sorry to have to leave early, but i have a presentation in a few minutes. thanks for involving me, and nice to see you all!

will we go through the retroboard?

@Mike - It's hard to find a definitive single meta page documenting selfie-pocalypse, so maybe this is a good time for that 🙂

Thank you, Michael!

Thanks for joining Michael

the lesson learned was that for mobile contributions we need to think a lot about how editors can curate so much content from ppl who know little about 'us' and our values

mobile commons contributions

@DJ +1

@Ryan not on this call. Please take the mike to amplify the points you would like to.

Kaya, Gnangarra!

Thank you, Daniel. It's nice to have you joining the call

@Mike - slide 7 to 13 in that PDF are the most relevant I think

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Pages_Wanting_Photos/Evaluation_Report_2021

Jennie is from The Metropolitan Museum in New York

I think the images from the Met are a little different from photography, but yeah, 6% is nothing to sneeze at

"Explore photos" button, open up group from Commons of related images (problem with related content, is our NSFW content, but thats a sepearate issue)

A table showing admins involvment: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:List_of_administrators_by_recent_activity Currently Commons has 200 admins, but only a few are really active. 20 admins doing 90% of the work.

I should add of the 6% half of those are European paintings. Very little use of our other collections.

For Jennie, can someone paste the link to tools with which she can analyze the views her (MET)uploaded images have gathered and how they have been used on Wikimedia projects? There are those tools but I can't quickly pull them out

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Pages_Wanting_Photos_2021

I regret I have to leave now. It was good to see you all, but next time, perhaps we could have more "conversation" (as this was advertised as being), and fewer presentations? The EasyRetro board and chat were useful and it would be good to have more of those topics being discussed.

for BaGLAMa, you need to add your image category to it before you want the stats for it https://glamtools.toolforge.org/baglama2/

I think its very "Editor" focused. Which is funny, because we tend to spend a lot of attention on "read wikipedia" but never have we spent time on "read commons"

I use baglama and glamorous. But I would like to drill down by time period, object type, etic..

GLAMorgan uses the stats from BaGLAMa https://glamtools.toolforge.org/glamorgan.html

Commons needs to "export" knowledge more, instead of only ingesting.

+1

Yes I will personally browse commons for certain dishes for example (for my own cooking, not for Wikipedia)

I presented on the tools for tracking image views in 2018? for Wikiconference NA, but I didn't give enough attention to BaGLAMa https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TgoHHKwASJ3OGWZH4Fg6B-2aVRXHVxY0h5nipt7HiWo/edit?usp=sharing

Yann is very correct. Commons lacks enough admin to manage that project

The etherpad for those who joined later: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

+1

+1

slow

Ryan: +1

Ryann: +1

+1

oh, yeah, is Commons trying to do too much?

@Isaac and @Yann - Though it seems like Commons has a similar problem with Wikipedia editions like en: - folks are afraid to apply for adminship

basically: we are soooo far behind, its hard to pick. 🙂

I have to leave now. It has been a great call. Thank you all, que tengan un buen día, tarde o noche!

the admin review process is so incredibly intense

Chau Mariana!

FYI, a real tangible outcome of this meeting - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Selfie-pocalypse

is it the same way on Commons?

Andrew: agreed.

🙂

Sandra said: "I would like Commons to be a destination in itself" -- IMO we push people (and search engines) away from browsing through Commons, when almost all wikilinks (eg wikilinked creators, wikilinked places, wikilinked subjects) point away from Commons, rather than eg to Commons categories. Is this something we should re-visit ?

Thanks for joining Mariana

Make Commons great for developers and many use-cases will be taken care of(look at Wikidata).

slow please

@Mike - While I mostly agree, there are some that DO view Commons as its own standalone community

Can you say more about that @Albin?

Yes I see Commons as an end goal for many seearches

@Jane - Definitely, probably even more so with SDC

Yes it helps, I use the commons infobox all the time

I’m very happy that we can discuss this matter, together. I would love to know if WMF will continue facilitating these meetings and leading some efforts for us to build/strength a Commons community, to move forward with these discussions and ideas

@Andrew yes SDoC will improve search (I hope)

slow please

As @Albin astutely pointed out recently - WikiCommons Query Search on its own may be the primary and only thing anyone uses to get to our free content. So treating "query" as a primary case and not a secondary support case is important.

+1

Practical example of what Ryan said: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js#Discussion

yeah little vision

Yes I agree with that (what Albin wants) and what query could give us but doesn't (yet)

+1 Albin on "you don't know technical direction" and you're "not sure if something will work"

FYI, Albin was the hero who fixed Pattypan!!!

Exactly

yay Albin for fixing Pattypan!!

Albin rescued Pattypan, by the way

snap!

Thanks for Pattypan, Albin!

:-)

slow please

slow daniel 🙂

Could we PLEASE enable search for Commons limited only to specific languages.. It will enable search for eight year olds to find pictures to be used in their language

Software is never finished

Infoboxes drawing on wikidata IMO have been a huge positive step (and for multi-lingualising Commons). BUT too many categories cannot have wikidata-driven infoboxes, as they don't have WD items (and WD community refuse to give ground on this). One possible help would be extending SDC to Commons categories, so then those categories could have a wikidata-like description stored on Commons (for the infoboxes to draw on).

limited means only labels that are specific to that languages

> "I would like Commons to be a destination in itself"I used to joke that Wikipedia really is the search engine for Commons. (which perhaps says more about the actual commons search engine ;) )

hahaha

Jean-Fred : that is very true

@JeanFred Blasphemy! 🙂 But you're right that Commons search has traditionally been fairly useless

+1 Ryan

& also (I think) it is only images that appear on Wikipedia that search engines ever find

Yeah, that line was supposed to be a light stab at Wikipedia ; but it has a built-in self-deprecating aspect :p

@James, I'm really curious about that now

Everyone can listen in the English channel

Commons can become a destination in itself if we invest in SDC-focused refined search (not just for Depicts), in SDC and Wikidata driven galleries, and e.g. generous interfaces. We could do fantastic things there

@James I'm not sure there's been a critical mass of people asking for more Wikidata items for Commons categories to be created, it's only been a few voices so far and it's hard to change the consensus on that. I think that's better than trying to manage category metastructure directly in Commons, since Wikidata's much better than Commons at data!

@JeanFred - I'm finding using a Frankenstein's monster search of haswbstatement, deep cat, and keywords is getting pretty good results. But as a user experience? Terrible 🙂

Sandra: If we're realistic, I think we know that that is years away

I love the interpreteter feature!

I see we do have many approaches to this discussion, and its great! personally I’m more interested in the community-scope-content discussion than the technical/tools discussion, and I’ll be very happy to share with others that are in the same page 🙂

+1 to Sandra (especially/although it does not have to be part of Commons itself): smth like Crotos (a very visual thing which admittedly draws more on Wikidata than on Commons) shows what it could look like http://zone47.com/crotos/

I had a question!

James: I totally agree, but I think we really need a long term vision besides looking at the immediate problems only

@Sandra Yes, there should be a lot more "Crotos" like tools on top of Commons to experience it in full glory

I lost the translation on the last intervention in Arabic, please help us documenting it! https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

OMG Jinx @JeanFred

:D

@Sandra years away from getting the community, the data quality, or the software

Patricia: yes, tools can help, but ultimately people matter.

Oui, c’est clair pour moi Yann

@Shari : misplaced priorities -- first priority should be to id tech debt to make sure *existing* capabilities stay up -- some are now *very* fragile

@sannita I wrote a brief summary and will develop it further after the meeting.

Fiona <3

@james yes, frictionless experience means the tech needs to be stable

recommend eg this list from @DJ : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ#Commons_dev_wishlist

The software to bring Commons to the kids of the world we already HAD

and could have again

Amir's email last year should be ringing warning bells: https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/WMPZHMXSLQJ6GONAVTFLDFFMPNJDVORS/

@James - Yes, rumor has it Thumbor may be on the list of things to be fixed

To book in to chat to Jeff: https://commons.youcanbook.me/

@James +1 the focus should be to go back to basics with things like tech debt, and stability

@james We've got that page in our list of lists but thanks for surfacing it again.

Thank you @james! I've been reviewing and capturing all the inputs from the lists

haven't we done that research before ??? like 7 years back ?

https://commons.youcanbook.me/

30 minute interviews for the research

I had a chat with Jeff and really enjoyed it. He asked great questions and actually helped me think about Commons better myself

I also particularly regret the collapse of support for large images -- no support now for image zoom pan and scan, after volunteer userspace IIP-image hack went away

Recommend it!

actually probably was 10 years ago 😄

… which D Schwen supported single-handed for years

And in the background lurking for a number of years - what of trying to play nice with standards like IIIF

Here again is the link to book an interview with Jeff: https://commons.youcanbook.me/ He is really keen to hear from admins/VRTs too because we don't hear as much about their needs.

Thanks Margeigh! Thanks Sandra!

Yes I found that link somewhat off-putting. I dunno a half hour in back-to-back meetups just seems so random

That picture <3

Jeff will be bridging the new research with existing research

missing attribution! ;-)

(hopefully it's at the end)

That was the winner of a contest recently yes?

The books photo that is

Wiki Loves Monuments

^^^

Yes I think so

library in Rio de Janeiro

... should have been taken in-house & integrated *years* ago, --- we really need ability to serve image tiles, image crops, etc (ideally with an interface that supports IIIF access) So much downstream software now presumes this kind of access.

@Andrew: yes! And it was Brazilian :p

Very cool

@James Definitely. We have gotten numerous pings from IIIF folks but we haven't had much dedication on our side.

Also the underpinnings for video are reportedly in an awful state

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Real_Gabinete_Portugu%C3%AAs_de_Leitura_10.jpg

@James You are correct re: video

For video, it's another case of how in 2022, our tools have somehow become less capable than 10 years ago

Thanks to everyone for their contribution. I'd need to join another meeting now. Good to see you, Andrew!

Indeed, I haven't uploaded a film in years

Thank you Isaac

Good seeing you Isaac!

These are fundamental & need to be shored up before "it would be nice" features (& across the board, to assure ourselves of stability of the key mission-critical software)

@Andrew I guess you haven't seen my 360 degree video support yet ;)

Link here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Sound_Logo

@DJ - ME WANT

https://twitter.com/dj_hartman/status/1519406694421479426

@DJ - I was afraid the post would be from April 1. Exciting!

I have terabytes of 360 video

yes thank you interpreters !

Please sign up if you would like to remain in the loop with the sound logo: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Sound_Logo

I totally believe it, Andrew!

LOL

... if your lens could talk

I may even have some 360 video from Esino Lario

My dreams and aspirations for Wiki Commons are the same they were before Wikidata, and I always thought Wikidata would fix Commons

18 months ago was promised that the API team would create a IIIF endpoint, and WM-SE would interface with GLAMs on the user side -- but both lead people left & nothing was ever heard of it again. This has become such a key platforms for GLAM and academic content sharing. mixing, and applications

@James The ZoomViewer still kind of works ? https://zoomviewer.toolforge.org/index.php?f=Dish%20of%20blueberries.jpg&flash=no

I also have lots of pics from Esino Lario that never got uploaded

Speaking of tomorrow Gangarra 🙂

(I mean, it did not take well the demise of Flash I suppose)

My latest uploads: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Collected_Works_of_Mahatma_Gandhi in 3 languages, total around 600 PDF and DjVu files

Thank you all so much!

@Jean-Fred : okay, today it is up. But it so often isn't -- completely can't be relied on

Thanks all!

Thank you all!

I just discovered this process for pictures of the day: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates?useskin=vector-2022#Featured_picture_candidates

@james oh ok, I never noticed, but I’ll take your word for it :)

Thank you everyone!

Thank you all

I just created an item for this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peter_Paul_Rubens_-_Self-Portrait.jpg

Be well, thanks all

https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/commons-app-2

Thanks!

Thanks!

Thank you!

Can I have a link the chirping bird slide we had during the retro?

I uploaded this image from the BBC images of AI project: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Banana_Plant_Flask_by_Max_Gruber.jpg

Yes, give me a moment Daniel

Here it is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_Natal_National_Park_dawn_chorus_(W1CDR0001146_BD3).ogg

@Jean-Fred & only supplies a string & duct-tape IIIF endpoint, not one that can be shared or relied on